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Talking about prenups

More and more couples are having the conversation about getting a prenuptial agreement. Whilst already common in the US and Europe, the popularity of prenups in the UK and Asia is continuing to grow. With the unfortunate reality many marriages now end in divorce, these agreements can save a lot of stress, heartache, and legal fees if the worst should happen.

The biggest challenge for our clients is broaching the subject with their partner. Sensitivities around a negative reaction, lack of knowledge on what prenups entail, and finding the right time, can all contribute to a feeling of dread before bringing up the conversation.

Our guide to talking about prenups includes advice from our family team who deal with these issues on a daily basis, discussing how to raise the subject sensitively and what the important things are to consider. Clients provide their stories on how they navigated the difficult subject with their partners and what worked best for them.

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Popping the question?

If you're considering a prenuptial agreement, it may help to know what's involved in the process.

Engagements are a time of hope and excitement, which is why discussing a prenuptial agreement with your partner can be tricky. Yet more and more couples are doing so. There are many reasons why: one or both parties may have built up substantial wealth or stand to benefit from an inheritance. It may be at the request of family, trustees or shareholders. Or they may see it as a way to plan their finances. 

Whatever your circumstances, prenups (along with pre civil partnership agreements and postnuptial agreements) can save a lot of stress, heartache and legal fees if the worst should happen. While they are not yet legally binding, family courts around the world will generally uphold nuptial agreements if they are fair and both parties fully understand the implications. 

So, what happens if you decide to get a prenup? First of all, you’ll need to speak to your partner. It’s a good idea to do this early because it can take anything from a few weeks to several months to draft an agreement, which ideally should be signed no later than 28 days before the wedding. 

Next, you will both need independent legal advice. Look for a lawyer with strong experience of nuptial agreements, with whom you feel comfortable. He or she will be able to help you to create the right style of agreement for you. 

When it’s time to draft the prenup, you will each need to make clear your financial position – the agreement will not work unless financial disclosure is correct. Considering your future plans – such as where you will live, or if you’re likely to have children – will help you to tailor the document to your situation. At Withers, we often use a collaborative approach to prenups where a couple and their lawyers get together and talk things through. Or those who prefer not to discuss the details directly can leave it to their lawyers to negotiate. 

Once agreed, the prenup can be filed away and hopefully, unless anything major happens that means you would both like to amend it, forgotten. 

‘I’m very glad we finalised the agreement and equally pleased we haven’t discussed it since signing!’ – client

How to talk about prenups

We have advised many international clients on pre and postnuptial agreements. Here are our top 10 tips on broaching the subject.

It’s never too soon to talk about prenups. Much as you would expect to discuss whether you intend to start a family, or where you’d like to live long term, it’s less stressful if you normalise the idea from the outset of your relationship. Ideally you would raise the topic before proposing, but if you’re already engaged, bring it up as soon as you can before starting to plan the wedding.

If friends or acquaintances mention that they signed a prenup, making reference to their situation can make the idea seem less alien. As prenups have become more common in the past few years, the conversation is not as hard because people will often know someone who has one.

Find a time when your partner is in a good mood, and you have time to talk things through properly. Choose a neutral location, perhaps when you’re going for a walk or having dinner, to help ease the conversation. 

Your first concern may be to avoid upsetting your partner but being straightforward is always the kindest approach. Beating around the bush is unwise. Be clear, speak kindly, get it done and then you can forget about it.

Strong marriages are built on communication so a frank talk about the future can strengthen you as a couple. The right outcome will be different for everyone, so don’t be afraid to raise what you think would be fair in different scenarios, such as if you have children or move countries, or if one of you comes into an inheritance.

If you are the financially stronger party, helping your partner to get legal advice shows that you intend to meet their needs. Courts will only uphold a prenup if it’s fair, which means that all parties need to be well advised. 

If you or your partner are international citizens, it may be helpful to talk about the marital property system in your home country. A prenup can help you to recreate that or adapt it to suit your circumstances.

You can explain the need for a prenup in terms of insurance – you insure against burglary not assuming that bad things are going to happen, but to make things as painless as possible if they do.

Case Studies: 

I came right out with the subject
AlEXIS SAINT, PROPERTY INVESTOR

‘My fiancé and I talk a lot about our future and how to grow our financial security. But before we marry we will be signing a prenuptial agreement that what I have now is mine, and what we earn together going forward, we share.'

'I’ve spent years building a property portfolio that is my main source of income and hopefully my pension. I don’t want to find myself in a vulnerable position if things don’t work out. We have a very candid relationship so I came right out with the subject one day while we were out for a walk. I blurted out something like, I think we should get a prenup. My fiancé showed a flash of surprise, but he made it clear that he understood. '

I think it’s important that the other party sees you have their interests at heart too, and you’re committed to building a strong future with them. He knows that the prenup isn’t just about me jealously guarding my wealth'

  
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It’s never been mentioned again    
MARIANO RUIZ, FUND MANAGER


‘I introduced the concept of a prenuptial agreement early, before my wife and I were engaged, to give her several months to digest it.

‘The way I explained it was as a way of replicating the matrimonial property system in continental Europe. We live in London for professional reasons but I find the law here unfair. I saw a prenup as a way to avoid stress and legal bills if the marriage should break down.'

‘My wife agreed without any difficulty. Our financial situation was unbalanced, but the first draft she received was fair. She came back with one request on the advice of her lawyer, and I agreed immediately. Other than that, we didn’t discuss the prenup ourselves. For me, direct negotiation is too abrupt, too much: it could put strain on you as a couple. This is just something that you do, sign and never look at again. We’ve been married for two years and the subject has never come up since.'

For us, Putting a prenuptial agreement in place was a no-brainer
Withers Client
'We both have familial assets on each side whereby both of our parents’ recent home purchases were supported by our own individual funds. Putting an agreement in place allows us to protect those who we hold dear and whose homes should never be at risk in the event of our marriage breakdown. Was it difficult to agree? No. Was is it difficult to talk about? No, but it is difficult to remember to separate the emotion of the situation to the rationale, as the rationale should prevail in such situations.'



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